I loved this one, Mike. Hearing you speak on all of these different ideas and topics has been very helpful to me. Things I've known deep down have words put to them and your "rambling" as you call it serves as pivot for learning and maybe more importantly, my un-learning. Thank you thank you thank you!
Definitely going to listen to this ! As a mushroom enthusiast I ve entertained the ‘stoned ape’ theory before I stopped believing in the insanity of the evil illusion. I think the SA theory is a major tripper trap and will delay people who are seeking from ascending their consciousness. Keep crushing Mike Hope u are well!!
I like this chat, Inspired a chat with my two boys! Speaking of, I would love to hear what your boys are reading, or what books you might recommend for 10-13 yo.!! 🙏🏽
The theory of evolution does NOT posit that humans evolved from apes, it does posit that apes and humans have a common ancestor in a creature called Proconsul an extinct genus of hominoid primates that lived during the Miocene epoch, roughly 21 to 17 million years ago, in Eastern Africa. There are enough examples of primate evolution in the geological record to prove evolution. This does not deny the divine origin of life on Earth in any way whatsoever, evolution is just a process used by the Lord to achieve his plan.
‘Apes’ ‘primates’… all semantics in the end. The theory that we humans rose out of the goop thru morphological adaptation over time is the core narrative of evolution and it’s both illogical and lacking empirical evidence to support its claims.
Sorry Mr. Winner, but your last name betrays you. Your ignorance of science is profound. Evolution is neither illogical nor without evidence. The evidence can be seen in the many natural history museums around the world. The skeletons of so many species of dinosaurs, and Ice age mammals on display.
I myself have found many fossils in the foothills of Mount Baldy in southern California where a fissure split and raised a wall containing many layers of sedement. Thousands of fossilized shell fish were there to be picked out with a jack knife.
The Tyrannosourus Rex skeleton"Sue"at the Field Museum in Chicago is truly an amazing sight. Thee are many extinct animal skeletons at the LA Museum next to the La Brea Tar Pits. The Sabertooth Cat skeletons are very exciting to see.
So you guys think all of these skeletons are fakes aye?
Hey I'm a Christian, Jesus is my Savior. But there is no conflict between the science of evolution and my religious beliefs, evolution is simply the process the Lord used to create Man.
Physical empirical evidence can be seen in any natural history museum.
Of course I realize no one is going to convince a "true believer" such as yourself. It doesn't much matter to me. There are so many screwballs in this world believing obvious bullshit...that is their and your problem.
you are aware that those 'bones' in those museums are actually casts purchased from a Chinese company? Go into any museum and ask and they will admit it. They will say the actual fossils are in the basement haha Please read the book "The Dinosaurs Never Existed" by Robbin Koefoed. It will blow your mind. As for T-Rex, only 15 incomplete T-Rex bones have been found...what you see in that museum is a hypothesis, nothing more.
Hahahaha....yea sure!! Chinese fake dinosaur skeletons fooling museum curators all over the world. Sue, the T-Rex skeleton has a full background story: In 1990, Sue Hendrickson, a fossil hunter with the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, was walking along a cliff face near Faith, South Dakota, when she spotted three massive bones.
The bones turned out to be part of a nearly complete Tyrannosaurus rex skeleton, eventually dubbed "Sue".
The Black Hills Institute extracted the fossil over 17 days, with the help of six people.
Ownership and Controversy:
The Black Hills Institute purchased the land where Sue was found from Maurice Williams, a member of the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe, and paid him $5,000 for the right to excavate.
However, the tribe later claimed ownership of the fossil, leading to a legal battle and a FBI raid on the institute.
The controversy sparked a broader debate about the ownership of fossils found on tribal land and the role of museums in scientific research.
Acquisition by the Field Museum and Ongoing Research:
The Field Museum of Chicago purchased Sue at auction in 1997 for $8.4 million, setting a record for the highest price ever paid for a fossil.
Sue's skeleton is now a centerpiece of the Field Museum's dinosaur exhibit.
Scientists continue to study Sue, using advanced techniques like CT scanning to learn more about her anatomy, behavior, and life.
Key Facts about Sue:
Sue is one of the most complete and best-preserved T. rex skeletons ever found, with only a few bones missing.
She is estimated to have been over 30 years old when she died.
Her size and completeness have made her a valuable resource for paleontological research.
Anyone who watches the video above will see the T-rex actually being excavated from the hill it was found on. Anyone who thinks this is fake is as crazy as a shit hous rat.
Yes but the geological level at which these fossils are found dates them. And if they have a white chalklike appearance they are clearly millions of years old.
The white, chalk-like appearance of some fossils, particularly those millions of years old, can be attributed to a few key factors related to the fossilization process:
1. Mineral Replacement (Permineralization and Replacement):
Permineralization: After an organism dies and is buried by sediment, groundwater carrying dissolved minerals can seep into the porous spaces within the bone, shell, or other organic material.
Replacement: Over vast stretches of geological time, the original organic material can be slowly dissolved and replaced by these minerals, often calcite (calcium carbonate) or silica.
Calcite: Calcite, a common mineral in limestone and chalk, is often white or light-colored, which is why many fossils found in these environments appear chalky.
Silica: Silica can also replace the original material, sometimes forming chert, which can be white, but is often more translucent than calcite.
2. Fossilization in Chalky Environments:
Chalk Formation: Chalk is a soft, white limestone primarily composed of the microscopic skeletal remains of marine organisms like coccolithophores.
Fossil Preservation: Chalky environments can be excellent for fossil preservation, as the fine-grained sediment can quickly bury organisms and help prevent decay.
White Appearance: Fossils preserved in chalk are often surrounded by and impregnated with this white calcium carbonate matrix, giving them a chalky appearance.
3. Weathering and Erosion:
Exposure: Over time, geological processes can expose fossil-bearing rocks, leading to weathering and erosion.
White Surface: The exposed surfaces of fossils, particularly those composed of or replaced by calcite, can develop a white, chalky coating due to weathering and mineral alteration.
In Summary:
The white, chalky appearance of many ancient fossils is generally a result of the mineral replacement process, where minerals like calcite fill in the pores and replace the original organic material. This is especially common in fossils found within limestone and chalk formations, and further influenced by weathering and erosion of exposed fossils.
How are these dated? And do you have a scientific study that proves these viruses with content and isolated from everything else. Have searched but no one can find one like that
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is the virus behind the worldwide outbreak of COVID-19 disease. One of the key biological characteristics of SARS-CoV-2, as well as several other viruses, is the presence of spike proteins that allow these viruses to penetrate host cells and cause infection.
Spike proteins are not imaginary unicorns, they can be seen and photographed in electron microscopes.
I have gone to the trouble to publish images of these spike proteins on Quara for your illucidation.:
Sorry Toni, I just gave you a source to see photographic evidence of spike proteins made from electron microscopes. Anyone who disbelieves "germ theory" and denies viruses is a quack. Just like the twatmuffens that believe the Earth is flat and that evolution of lifeforms is false. Quacks and pseudoscience mumbo jumbo.
At first all living creatures on earth stared out small . Could it be humans evolved from the covid virus . ? A human bite seems to be deadly ,otherwise humans would not need to wear snout pouches .
I would suggest you spend some time studying modern evolutionary theory.
The current, widely accepted evolutionary theory is known as the Modern Synthesis, also referred to as Neo-Darwinism. This theory combines Darwin's theory of natural selection with Mendelian genetics to explain how evolution occurs. Essentially, it posits that evolution is driven by genetic changes (like mutations) that are then acted upon by natural selection, leading to the adaptation and diversification of species over time.
Dear William ,I would never accuse YOU ,that you evolved from the covid virus ,but every one else did, ,You and me did not ,the only two .who where put on earth by a crew of a space ship ,when their food supply ran low .
I am a Christian and I know the whole history of Fabian Socialists and their weird theory of eugenics and their quest for a global technocratic government. H.G.Wells along with Thomas Huxley were Fabians
Your whole rap is built on ignorance. Birds evolved from theropods, T-Rex, veloceraptor etc, Not from lizards.
The Piltdown Man was the ONLY hoax in the evolution of humans.
Australopithecus is a genus of early hominins that existed in Africa during the Pliocene and Early Pleistocene. The genera Homo (which includes modern humans), Paranthropus, and Kenyanthropus evolved from some Australopithecus species.
Lungs did not evolve from gills directly, but rather from a different structure: an outgrowth of the digestive tract, specifically the pharynx. In ancient fish, this outgrowth initially functioned as an air bladder, used for buoyancy and possibly for gas exchange in low-oxygen water. Over time, these air bladders evolved into lungs, adapted for breathing air.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Initial Outgrowth:
The ancestral lungs likely began as an outpouching from the pharynx, near the digestive tract.
Function:
This initial structure likely served as a way to gulp air at the surface for buoyancy and to supplement oxygen uptake in oxygen-depleted water.
Evolutionary Changes:
As fish evolved, these air bladders became more specialized for respiration, with the internal surface developing a network of blood vessels for gas exchange.
Lungs vs. Swim Bladders:
In some fish lineages, these air bladders continued to develop into lungs, while in others, they evolved into swim bladders, used for buoyancy control.
Transition to Land:
Lungs were crucial for the transition of aquatic vertebrates to land, as they allowed for air breathing in the new environment.
Whatever you need to believe in brother. ‘Outgrowth of the digestive tract’…what an illogical theory! Nature doesn’t mix systems like that and there is zero precedence or physical proof of this that I’ve ever seen.
I loved this one, Mike. Hearing you speak on all of these different ideas and topics has been very helpful to me. Things I've known deep down have words put to them and your "rambling" as you call it serves as pivot for learning and maybe more importantly, my un-learning. Thank you thank you thank you!
Thanks!! 🤙
Definitely going to listen to this ! As a mushroom enthusiast I ve entertained the ‘stoned ape’ theory before I stopped believing in the insanity of the evil illusion. I think the SA theory is a major tripper trap and will delay people who are seeking from ascending their consciousness. Keep crushing Mike Hope u are well!!
I like this chat, Inspired a chat with my two boys! Speaking of, I would love to hear what your boys are reading, or what books you might recommend for 10-13 yo.!! 🙏🏽
I’ve got a follow up coming!
Awesome!
As we can see clearly now ,apes evolved from humans . Trump is still in the process of evolving .
correct👌🏽♥️
to mike’s audio,i mean.
The theory of evolution does NOT posit that humans evolved from apes, it does posit that apes and humans have a common ancestor in a creature called Proconsul an extinct genus of hominoid primates that lived during the Miocene epoch, roughly 21 to 17 million years ago, in Eastern Africa. There are enough examples of primate evolution in the geological record to prove evolution. This does not deny the divine origin of life on Earth in any way whatsoever, evolution is just a process used by the Lord to achieve his plan.
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‘Apes’ ‘primates’… all semantics in the end. The theory that we humans rose out of the goop thru morphological adaptation over time is the core narrative of evolution and it’s both illogical and lacking empirical evidence to support its claims.
Sorry Mr. Winner, but your last name betrays you. Your ignorance of science is profound. Evolution is neither illogical nor without evidence. The evidence can be seen in the many natural history museums around the world. The skeletons of so many species of dinosaurs, and Ice age mammals on display.
I myself have found many fossils in the foothills of Mount Baldy in southern California where a fissure split and raised a wall containing many layers of sedement. Thousands of fossilized shell fish were there to be picked out with a jack knife.
The Tyrannosourus Rex skeleton"Sue"at the Field Museum in Chicago is truly an amazing sight. Thee are many extinct animal skeletons at the LA Museum next to the La Brea Tar Pits. The Sabertooth Cat skeletons are very exciting to see.
So you guys think all of these skeletons are fakes aye?
Hey I'm a Christian, Jesus is my Savior. But there is no conflict between the science of evolution and my religious beliefs, evolution is simply the process the Lord used to create Man.
Physical empirical evidence can be seen in any natural history museum.
Of course I realize no one is going to convince a "true believer" such as yourself. It doesn't much matter to me. There are so many screwballs in this world believing obvious bullshit...that is their and your problem.
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you are aware that those 'bones' in those museums are actually casts purchased from a Chinese company? Go into any museum and ask and they will admit it. They will say the actual fossils are in the basement haha Please read the book "The Dinosaurs Never Existed" by Robbin Koefoed. It will blow your mind. As for T-Rex, only 15 incomplete T-Rex bones have been found...what you see in that museum is a hypothesis, nothing more.
Hahahaha....yea sure!! Chinese fake dinosaur skeletons fooling museum curators all over the world. Sue, the T-Rex skeleton has a full background story: In 1990, Sue Hendrickson, a fossil hunter with the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, was walking along a cliff face near Faith, South Dakota, when she spotted three massive bones.
The bones turned out to be part of a nearly complete Tyrannosaurus rex skeleton, eventually dubbed "Sue".
The Black Hills Institute extracted the fossil over 17 days, with the help of six people.
Ownership and Controversy:
The Black Hills Institute purchased the land where Sue was found from Maurice Williams, a member of the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe, and paid him $5,000 for the right to excavate.
However, the tribe later claimed ownership of the fossil, leading to a legal battle and a FBI raid on the institute.
The controversy sparked a broader debate about the ownership of fossils found on tribal land and the role of museums in scientific research.
Acquisition by the Field Museum and Ongoing Research:
The Field Museum of Chicago purchased Sue at auction in 1997 for $8.4 million, setting a record for the highest price ever paid for a fossil.
Sue's skeleton is now a centerpiece of the Field Museum's dinosaur exhibit.
Scientists continue to study Sue, using advanced techniques like CT scanning to learn more about her anatomy, behavior, and life.
Key Facts about Sue:
Sue is one of the most complete and best-preserved T. rex skeletons ever found, with only a few bones missing.
She is estimated to have been over 30 years old when she died.
Her size and completeness have made her a valuable resource for paleontological research.
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National Geographic - Sue the T. rex (1999)
https://youtu.be/2dHW2hVbwcU?t=12
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Anyone who watches the video above will see the T-rex actually being excavated from the hill it was found on. Anyone who thinks this is fake is as crazy as a shit hous rat.
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and yes, I too have found fossils of shell fish, shell fish that look the exact same now as they did hundreds of thousands of years ago.
Yes but the geological level at which these fossils are found dates them. And if they have a white chalklike appearance they are clearly millions of years old.
The white, chalk-like appearance of some fossils, particularly those millions of years old, can be attributed to a few key factors related to the fossilization process:
1. Mineral Replacement (Permineralization and Replacement):
Permineralization: After an organism dies and is buried by sediment, groundwater carrying dissolved minerals can seep into the porous spaces within the bone, shell, or other organic material.
Replacement: Over vast stretches of geological time, the original organic material can be slowly dissolved and replaced by these minerals, often calcite (calcium carbonate) or silica.
Calcite: Calcite, a common mineral in limestone and chalk, is often white or light-colored, which is why many fossils found in these environments appear chalky.
Silica: Silica can also replace the original material, sometimes forming chert, which can be white, but is often more translucent than calcite.
2. Fossilization in Chalky Environments:
Chalk Formation: Chalk is a soft, white limestone primarily composed of the microscopic skeletal remains of marine organisms like coccolithophores.
Fossil Preservation: Chalky environments can be excellent for fossil preservation, as the fine-grained sediment can quickly bury organisms and help prevent decay.
White Appearance: Fossils preserved in chalk are often surrounded by and impregnated with this white calcium carbonate matrix, giving them a chalky appearance.
3. Weathering and Erosion:
Exposure: Over time, geological processes can expose fossil-bearing rocks, leading to weathering and erosion.
White Surface: The exposed surfaces of fossils, particularly those composed of or replaced by calcite, can develop a white, chalky coating due to weathering and mineral alteration.
In Summary:
The white, chalky appearance of many ancient fossils is generally a result of the mineral replacement process, where minerals like calcite fill in the pores and replace the original organic material. This is especially common in fossils found within limestone and chalk formations, and further influenced by weathering and erosion of exposed fossils.
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How are these dated? And do you have a scientific study that proves these viruses with content and isolated from everything else. Have searched but no one can find one like that
Toni Jean,
Do you know what a 'spike protein is'?
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is the virus behind the worldwide outbreak of COVID-19 disease. One of the key biological characteristics of SARS-CoV-2, as well as several other viruses, is the presence of spike proteins that allow these viruses to penetrate host cells and cause infection.
Spike proteins are not imaginary unicorns, they can be seen and photographed in electron microscopes.
I have gone to the trouble to publish images of these spike proteins on Quara for your illucidation.:
https://danesdabom.quora.com/Spike-Proteins-SARS-CoV-2
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Clearly Mr Whitten is not a long time listener, first time caller 😃
Sorry Toni, I just gave you a source to see photographic evidence of spike proteins made from electron microscopes. Anyone who disbelieves "germ theory" and denies viruses is a quack. Just like the twatmuffens that believe the Earth is flat and that evolution of lifeforms is false. Quacks and pseudoscience mumbo jumbo.
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At first all living creatures on earth stared out small . Could it be humans evolved from the covid virus . ? A human bite seems to be deadly ,otherwise humans would not need to wear snout pouches .
I would suggest you spend some time studying modern evolutionary theory.
The current, widely accepted evolutionary theory is known as the Modern Synthesis, also referred to as Neo-Darwinism. This theory combines Darwin's theory of natural selection with Mendelian genetics to explain how evolution occurs. Essentially, it posits that evolution is driven by genetic changes (like mutations) that are then acted upon by natural selection, leading to the adaptation and diversification of species over time.
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Dear William ,I would never accuse YOU ,that you evolved from the covid virus ,but every one else did, ,You and me did not ,the only two .who where put on earth by a crew of a space ship ,when their food supply ran low .
Okay Joe, I get your Vaudeville slapstick comedy act. That is cool with me,
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I am a Christian and I know the whole history of Fabian Socialists and their weird theory of eugenics and their quest for a global technocratic government. H.G.Wells along with Thomas Huxley were Fabians
Your whole rap is built on ignorance. Birds evolved from theropods, T-Rex, veloceraptor etc, Not from lizards.
The Piltdown Man was the ONLY hoax in the evolution of humans.
Australopithecus is a genus of early hominins that existed in Africa during the Pliocene and Early Pleistocene. The genera Homo (which includes modern humans), Paranthropus, and Kenyanthropus evolved from some Australopithecus species.
There is plenty of evidence of human evolution.
Are you cranks flat earthers as well?
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Lost me at ‘dinosaurs’… no physical evidence available to prove they ever existed. Lots of hoaxes, hucksters and fake fossils though!
Mike ,the last five years of covid science was and is still run by dinosaurs . I don't know
why it is so hard to teach non believers ,when the evidence is in front of us .
Where are the fossil records? And, fwiw, we're way beyond "Flat Earthers"
Where I live earth is completely flat ,so the pancake theory makes sense to me . No one is telling us what is on the underside of the pancake .
I was able to look at the underside of the pancake and I found it's a frying pan .
Lungs did not evolve from gills directly, but rather from a different structure: an outgrowth of the digestive tract, specifically the pharynx. In ancient fish, this outgrowth initially functioned as an air bladder, used for buoyancy and possibly for gas exchange in low-oxygen water. Over time, these air bladders evolved into lungs, adapted for breathing air.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Initial Outgrowth:
The ancestral lungs likely began as an outpouching from the pharynx, near the digestive tract.
Function:
This initial structure likely served as a way to gulp air at the surface for buoyancy and to supplement oxygen uptake in oxygen-depleted water.
Evolutionary Changes:
As fish evolved, these air bladders became more specialized for respiration, with the internal surface developing a network of blood vessels for gas exchange.
Lungs vs. Swim Bladders:
In some fish lineages, these air bladders continued to develop into lungs, while in others, they evolved into swim bladders, used for buoyancy control.
Transition to Land:
Lungs were crucial for the transition of aquatic vertebrates to land, as they allowed for air breathing in the new environment.
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Whatever you need to believe in brother. ‘Outgrowth of the digestive tract’…what an illogical theory! Nature doesn’t mix systems like that and there is zero precedence or physical proof of this that I’ve ever seen.
humans were on earth before the apes and only recently, in recorded history borrowed some of their genetics, (5th root race)
humans are more than the bodies they use,
evolution is a tool of intelligent design,
.
Wonder how the 6-fingered giants fit in . . .
Great voice Mike. Am looking forward to a narration of Dicken's The Christmas Carol this solstice season. hint hint . . .
Lloyd Pye lectures are great if you can find them
I think it is the Masons who have had a monopoly on all school books for the last century or more . . . kindergarten thru advanced university